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      <title>Hype and Omission posted by Rod Macpherson @ Thu, 25 Oct 2007 23:33:55 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;There is a lot of fluffy oratory swirling around comparisons between Ruby and Java and it seems to be one-sided. In fact they are two different tools and Java doesn&amp;#8217;t pretend to be a loosely typed dynamic scripting language. There are also frameworks, galore, for Java. What needs to be compared are languages like Groovy and frameworks like Seam or [pick one of dozens available].&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Ruby on Rails really hits the sweet spot for small dynamic web sites with a simple persitent back-end. You avoid a lot of learning and start doing quicker. There&amp;#8217;s no magic in Ruby that prevents the same sort of &lt;span class="caps"&gt;MVC&lt;/span&gt; generator from being created using Java and s dynamic scripting language&amp;#8212;Groovy in Grails comes to mind.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;I think we need &lt;span class="caps"&gt;ROR&lt;/span&gt;. I think it&amp;#8217;s extremely useful and fills a much needed space.  I think you will see more &lt;span class="caps"&gt;MVC&lt;/span&gt; generators for C# and Java combined with declarative and dynamic languages. Then you have the benefits of &lt;span class="caps"&gt;ROR&lt;/span&gt; without the restrictions. I see &lt;span class="caps"&gt;ROR&lt;/span&gt; continuing to grow in popularity and having a positive effect on Java and C# based web frameworks. Ruby, the language, is a real yawner. It&amp;#8217;s Rails and the &lt;span class="caps"&gt;MVC&lt;/span&gt; artifact generator that&amp;#8217;s the real winner.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <author>Rod Macpherson</author>
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