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      <title>Setting up routes posted by Don Holloway @ Wed, 14 May 2008 03:17:37 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;After poking around a bit, it looks like it belongs in the config/routes.rb file.  I just removed the comment from the first map.resources and added the script.  Hope that was right.  You may want to call out (for those of us that are slower) where the change needs to go.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Don&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Setting up routes posted by Don Holloway @ Wed, 14 May 2008 03:00:12 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Mike,&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#8217;m enjoying the book, although I&amp;#8217;m pretty new to Ruby on Rails.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;In Chapter 3.2 Sending an invitation, there is a comment after completion of setting up the controller that says&amp;#8230;&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&amp;#8220;Before we do that, let&amp;#8217;s set up our routes.&lt;/p&gt;


&lt;code&gt; map.resources :invitations &lt;/code&gt;

	&lt;p&gt;It looks like script, not a command line thing, but I don&amp;#8217;t understand where I&amp;#8217;m supposed to put the code to set up the routes.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Any help would be appreciated.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 14 May 2008 03:00:12 -0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Store custom data? posted by ZeFish @ Thu, 08 May 2008 19:39:40 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Hi there, I&amp;#8217;ve been reading your book and I must say that it work really well!&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;I just have one question tho&amp;#8230;&lt;br /&gt;Is there a way to store parameter about a user even if he doesn&amp;#8217;t have the application?&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#8217;ll give you an example:&lt;br /&gt;In my fb application, a user can put all the dvd he bought and then shown them in his profile.&lt;br /&gt;Now that every user can view his dvd in the profile, everybody can comment to a specified dvd.&lt;br /&gt;But what if a user want to comment but dosen&amp;#8217;t have the app? He click on a dvd in a profile, then he is asked to install the app, and finally back to the comment page. But how can I keep the information about wich dvd he clicked?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 19:39:40 -0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Accessing Facebooker::User constants... posted by Mike Mangino @ Sun, 04 May 2008 19:26:54 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;pre&gt;
  &lt;code&gt;
  u=User.for(12451754)
  fb_user = u.facebook_session.user
  fb_user.status
  &lt;/code&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;br /&gt;I do talk about pulling the hometown. I will try to make that a little more clear.</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 19:26:54 -0000</pubDate>
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      <title>source updated chap 8 ? posted by Mike Mangino @ Sun, 04 May 2008 19:25:14 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;There has been some internal re-organization in the book over the last few weeks (we moved a few chapters around) We will get all of the source out shortly after the next beta is posted.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Mike&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 19:25:14 -0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Integrate into Existing Application posted by Gregory Bluvshteyn @ Thu, 01 May 2008 04:35:51 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Hi Mike,&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the answer, it sort of does makes sense and everything which is genius is simple. I will added it to the app facebook&amp;#8217;s  app installation process.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Sincerely:&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Gregory Bluvshteyn&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 04:35:51 -0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Integrate into Existing Application posted by Mike Mangino @ Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:49:16 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Why not ask for username and password and verify the account by logging them in? If they can authenticate, then link the accounts?&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Mike&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 19:49:16 -0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Integrate into Existing Application posted by Gregory Bluvshteyn @ Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:02:17 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Hi all,&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;I also have existing application with internal authentication, and we need to be able to import/install user&amp;#8217;s widget ( combination of various choices that user selected during regestration) via Facebook app. I have a facebook application that does that without problems. But my question is what would be the bast way of linking facebook id to my local user account?&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Currently i do the following&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;ul&gt;
	&lt;li&gt;upon app instalation I ask user to put in his application&amp;#8217;s login &lt;/li&gt;
		&lt;li&gt;I link his login ( if found ) with facebook_id&lt;/li&gt;
	&lt;/ul&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Though it works fine for me, there is a big security concern in it. Anyone can come in and just choose somebody else&amp;#8217;s link thus overriding facebook id of the other user.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Any ideas, suggestions would be greatly appriciated on that topic.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&lt;span class="caps"&gt;BTW&lt;/span&gt;, really awesome book in couple of hours I was up and running.&lt;br /&gt;Thanks a lot Mike&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 16:02:17 -0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Local development - FBML vs. iframe posted by Edwin Veltman @ Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:14:13 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks, I think I&amp;#8217;ve got it.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;I was a bit confused. As I&amp;#8217;m using facebooker with rails, I used the tunnel command in the facebooker section of the instructions, which gave me the error:&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;rake facebooker:tunnel:background_start&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;So instead I used the command in the rails instructions:&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;rake tunnlr:start&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;This is giving me the proper tunnel that I have set up in the facebooker.yml file. Perhaps the facebooker Tunnlr doc could be updated, so the user is instructed to use the second command if using facebooker together with rails.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Apr 2008 17:14:13 -0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Local development - FBML vs. iframe posted by Mike Mangino @ Tue, 29 Apr 2008 14:37:46 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;It sounds like you don&amp;#8217;t have ssh installed on your machine.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;You can find instructions on how to use the tunnlr plugin at &lt;a href="http://tunnlr.com/about"&gt;http://tunnlr.com/about&lt;/a&gt; then click on &amp;#8220;Instructions for Rails&amp;#8221; If you still have problems, send an email to &lt;a href="mailto:support@tunnlr.com"&gt;support@tunnlr.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Local development - FBML vs. iframe posted by Edwin Veltman @ Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:59:27 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Typo: it was actually
    0.0.0.0:3000&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Local development - FBML vs. iframe posted by Edwin Veltman @ Tue, 29 Apr 2008 06:57:46 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;I set up an account at &lt;a href="http://tunnlr.com"&gt;http://tunnlr.com&lt;/a&gt;, and followed the instructions to modify my facebooker.yml file. When I run &lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;rake facebooker:tunnel:background_start&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;I get&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;Starting tunnel ssh1.tunnlr.com:xxxxx to 0.0.0:3000
The system cannot find the path specified.&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;(xxxx being the public port number)&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Any ideas on what&amp;#8217;s wrong here?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Rails version? posted by Mike Mangino @ Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:51:57 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;All examples in the book use Rails 2.0. Facebooker is most heavily tested on Rails 2.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 11:51:57 -0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Rails version? posted by Khurrum Maqbool @ Sat, 26 Apr 2008 19:42:11 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Hello,&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;It wasn&amp;#8217;t immediately obvious what the version of Rails is being used in this book. Is this updated for Rails 2.0? Thanks!&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Integrate into Existing Application posted by Jay McGaffigan @ Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:35:18 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Thanks mike!  That&amp;#8217;s super helpful.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;and thanks for the tip on the mailing list.  I&amp;#8217;ll be heading over there now.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Integrate into Existing Application posted by Mike Mangino @ Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:59:44 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;You could create a FacebookController class that includes the &amp;#8220;ensure_application&amp;#8230;&amp;#8221; and then make all of your Facebook controllers descend from that.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;The routing also isn&amp;#8217;t that bad. You can do&lt;br /&gt;&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;
map.with_options :conditions=&amp;gt;{:canvas=&amp;gt;false} do |non_fb|

  non_fb.resources :users
  # all other routes here
end
&lt;/code&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;&lt;br /&gt;The Facebooker mailing list is a good place for these discussions. There are people on the list that have more experience integrating Facebook with an existing app than I do.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:59:44 -0000</pubDate>
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      <title>Integrate into Existing Application posted by Jay McGaffigan @ Mon, 21 Apr 2008 16:10:28 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Hi all,&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Mike I just finished reading your latest chapter and it&amp;#8217;s pretty good.  I&amp;#8217;m wondering tho,  What if I have an existing website that&amp;#8217;s already in production and I&amp;#8217;m creating a Facebook application to go with it?   At first blush it seems to me that should I follow the guidance offered in your chapter and integrate my site with the facebook application that in reality what will happen is that my main site becomes subsumed by the facebook application.  What I mean is that it feels like I would have to attach to all my routes the :canvas =&amp;gt; false option, and all my non facebook controllers will need to have the before_filter to skip the application check.  Is this observation true?&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;what I am thinking is that I would like to be able to segment the facebook stuff from my website stuff via something like separate routes, or checking the request in application.rb and setting things up to either render as html or render as fbml in the controller actions (just like you can render as :xml) (although I&amp;#8217;m not confident that is a way to go).&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#8217;m starting to develop a facebook application where factors influencing design/implementation point me to wanting to be able to separate out the facebook stuff from the main website to the point that they may have to be two separate applications in the future.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Do you (or anyone) know of other information/discussion forums on integrating FB into an existing app?&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Great book so far.&lt;br /&gt;Thanks!&lt;br /&gt;Jay&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Local development - FBML vs. iframe posted by Mike Mangino @ Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:35:39 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;It&amp;#8217;s not quite ready for prime time, but we have a service that can make this a little easier. Check out &lt;a href="http://tunnlr.com"&gt;http://tunnlr.com&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Feel free to sign up for an account. Things are working for us and the service will likely be launched within the next two week.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Let us know if that solves your problems.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 18:35:39 -0000</pubDate>
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      <title>source updated chap 8 ? posted by yves dufour @ Sun, 20 Apr 2008 07:11:37 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;I got the last rev for chap 8, but the source code link has not been updated yet ?  cannot get the chapter8/karate_poke app&lt;br /&gt;when will it be ready ?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Local development - FBML vs. iframe posted by Christian MacLean @ Sat, 19 Apr 2008 17:39:53 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Honestly  &amp;#8211; from what I&amp;#8217;ve found you&amp;#8217;re better off going out and setting up a free account with dyndns, and then configuring the port mapping on your router to point to your machine running mongrel &amp;#8211; I map port 80 (default web port) to 3000 (default mongrel port).  Then in my app setup on facebook, I point the config at my dnynds domain.  Make sense?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Local development - FBML vs. iframe posted by Edwin Veltman @ Sat, 19 Apr 2008 07:09:45 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;I&amp;#8217;m trying to develop locally on my Windows machine. I followed the instructions on setting up a reverse ssh tunnel, and everything seems to be in order, but I keep on ending up with a blank canvas page. According to the facebook developers wiki at &lt;a href="http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/FAQ"&gt;http://wiki.developers.facebook.com/index.php/FAQ&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;&amp;#8220;If you have configured your canvas to use &lt;span class="caps"&gt;FBML&lt;/span&gt;, then make sure that you are accessing an externally available server. Facebook&amp;#8217;s servers cannot access &amp;#8220;localhost&amp;#8221; or an internal IP address.&lt;br /&gt;If you do want to develop using localhost, you can do so by configuring to use an iframe.&amp;#8221;&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Although I am an experienced scripter, I&amp;#8217;m rather new at this type of web development, and I&amp;#8217;d really like to use &lt;span class="caps"&gt;FBML&lt;/span&gt; as recommended in the book to ease my way. Do I have to get ahold of a separate development machine so I can use &lt;span class="caps"&gt;FBML&lt;/span&gt;, or must I alternately use iframe when developing locally, or am I missing something?&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Accessing Facebooker::User constants... posted by Christian MacLean @ Fri, 18 Apr 2008 16:33:20 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Hey Mike,&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;I feel like I'm dominating this forum...but...&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;


	&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;Question and suggestion for you.  You don't mention in your book anywhere how to access the Facebooker::User constants - I can't for the life of me figure out how to get at the :status, :political, :pic_small, :name, etc information for my user object!  I'm pretty sure I have to create a new Facebooker object from my User.id - but I'm not sure where to go from there...&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;


	&lt;pre&gt;&lt;code&gt;I think a section on accessing this information (and perhaps the best practice for it) as well as perhaps a section that would offer suggestions on how to Grok some of the rdoc's would be uber helpful.&lt;/code&gt;&lt;/pre&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Thanks Mike!&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;Christian&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Capture xml responses from Facebook... posted by Mike Mangino @ Fri, 18 Apr 2008 00:20:22 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;I usually just add a print statment in parser.rb in the facebooker plugin.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;There isn&amp;#8217;t currently a good way to save it aside. I&amp;#8217;d love a patch for something like Facebooker::Parser.last_xml_doc&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Capture xml responses from Facebook... posted by Christian MacLean @ Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:27:25 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Hey Mike,&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;One thing I&amp;#8217;d love to know is a good way to capture the raw &lt;span class="caps"&gt;XML&lt;/span&gt; responses from facebook (say when I make a call from &lt;span class="caps"&gt;IRB&lt;/span&gt;).  Can you give us an idea how to do this (for debugging) either from &lt;span class="caps"&gt;IRB&lt;/span&gt; or from the browser?&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;CM&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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      <title>Why current_user in controller? posted by Mike Mangino @ Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:04:27 -0000</title>
      <description>&lt;p&gt;Nope, there&amp;#8217;s nothing that would keep this from working. I don&amp;#8217;t normally include the concept of a current user in my models because my domain model rarely involves a current user, that is more likely to be an artifact of the interface.&lt;/p&gt;


	&lt;p&gt;In this book, I decided to model the pattern of the restful_authentication plugin. Restful_authentication is probably the most popular Rails authentication plugin, so I figured it would be a well known interface to use.&lt;/p&gt;</description>
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