It isn’t much of a roundtable when everyone at the table is gaga over Apple.
Anyway, I found this unsupported quote from Marcus S. Zarra to be bizarre: “Companies need to realize that Flash is a terrible tech and move away from it.” After reading that, go check out Mr. Zarra’s home page: http://www.zarrastudios.com (as of 3 February 2010, it uses Flash).
Flash has been sorely abused (Flash banners, ads, etc.), but I can’t think of another viable technology for presenting certain kinds of visuals cross-platform with minimum end-user consternation. I use Flash for a view into data in a Ruby on Rails app. The interface is standard jQuery and HTML, but the view of the 3D tree structure is Flash. If users don’t have Flash, the installation experience is as smooth and straightforward as any I’ve seen, even on Linux.
One of the primary arguments against Flash is that it is proprietary, but at least Adobe has taken some steps towards opening up. Apple is about as proprietary as they come…even though it owes its rebirth in part to FreeBSD.